I couldn’t be more excited to share this episode of Kiln’s DeFi Rendez-Vous podcast, where I sit down with my good friend and partner @duncanmmoir, President of @21Shares, the world’s leading crypto ETP issuer. This was one of my favorite conversations yet, as we went deep on: 🔶 The Institutional floodgates opening – How Bitcoin ETFs are already rivaling gold volumes, and why $40T in pension funds is just starting to wake up to crypto. Duncan breaks down why Goldman Sachs, hedge funds, and even UK pension funds are now piling in. 🔶 Bridging TradFi & crypto – From the explosive demand for staked ETH ETFs to the untapped potential of tokenized real-world assets, we explore how 21Shares is shaping the future of regulated crypto investing. 🔶 The UK’s crypto boom – With the FCA lifting its ban on crypto ETNs for retail, a £2.4 trillion market is about to explode. Duncan reveals what’s next for Europe’s institutional adoption. 🔶 The Dogecoin phenomenon – Yes, we even talked about $DOGE, why its community-driven model might be the ultimate product-market fit, and why 21Shares launched the first foundation-backed Dogecoin ETP. This episode is packed with insights you won’t hear anywhere else. Watch it now: